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Wulfrune
00venerdì 24 febbraio 2006 09:21
The second beret photo - isn't that Fr Fessio carrying the little girl? At first I thought it was someone who looked very like who happened to have a family, then I detected the clerical collar. I'm pretty sure it's him. I wonder what the occasion was?
NanMN
00venerdì 24 febbraio 2006 14:15
A QUESTION
Benefan: There are several medical conditions like cirrhosis and different acute illnesses that can cause the reddened hands. However... it could also be genetic - just the way he was born.
benefan
00sabato 25 febbraio 2006 01:07

THANKS FOR THE ANSWERS, ladies. Since I'm sure it's not cirrhosis, hopefully it is just genetic. I was wondering if he is taking medication for something that could cause that as a side effect.

FIGHTING WITHDRAWAL

I am so glad to see this forum this evening! After having no access to the internet all day because of some kind of computer problem at work, I was going through all sorts of Ratzinger withdrawal. Thank God, my computer at home works just fine so I can get my daily fix. I need to look at some Papa photos fast. My hands are shaking.

ANOTHER SUGGESTION TO GET PAPAL ATTENTION

Yesterday, as I watched a bit of Papa's audience from Wednesday, I realized that there is an even better way to get his attention than "borrowing" a baby to lure him with. Papa always stops to talk to the new brides! So any of you who are planning to attend his audience and want to get him within reach should get a wedding gown for the occasion. Forget trying to find a fake groom. Just get the dress. It probably wouldn't even cost much if you buy it at a Salvation Army thrift store. I know, I know, that sounds kind of pathetic and desperate but, look, I'm sure it will work and actually if the dress were torn a bit or stained, Papa would probably feel sorry and make an even greater effort to stop and talk. You know what a kind heart he has. Just trying to be helpful here. Nan, Maryjos, think about it. That would also make for a lovely photo.





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NanMN
00sabato 25 febbraio 2006 03:29
ANOTHER SUGGESTION TO GET PAPAL ATTENTION
Ok Benefan... Thanks for the creative [SM=g27823] idea [SM=g27824] However, I think I would have to do some serious explaining when I got home to my family, friends and boyfriend "No, honestly I didn't get married... I did not elope... I just wanted a sure fire way of shaking Papa's hand and talking to him". But then again... the dress... wouldn't have to be a traditional long dress with train... thinking [SM=g27829] ... thinking [SM=g27829] ... maybe a cream colored dress with some lace could find it's way into my luggage... note to self: must remember to buy a small bouquet of flowers... [SM=g27828] [SM=g27828] [SM=g27828]

Seriously, this last summer, I was concerned about his hands too. So I did some looking on line, talking to nursing friends and co-workers. Honestly, if [SM=g27821] Cardinal Ratzinger had been suffering from any of the medical problems that could cause the red hands, I seriously doubt that JP2 would have kept him in Rome. JP2 would have wanted what was best for his most trusted friend and would have let him retire. I'd bet either it's a genetic thing or a side effect of a medication.
Jil
00sabato 25 febbraio 2006 13:30

Forget trying to find a fake groom. Just get the dress



Oh, benefan, you really make me laugh. Your postings are such good medicine after a stressful working week.

So, if there is a male B16-fan reading here, prefereably from Germany, we could meet and discuss the subject. You can always borrow dress and suit, book the flights and two single rooms [SM=g27824] - that's it!!!! I can't wait. If anybody is interested please send me a pn. [SM=g27822]

@TERESA
It would be nice if we could find out the brand of his beret. Actually I would love to have one of my own. I always have cold ears in winter and I am used to wear hats.
benefan
00sabato 25 febbraio 2006 19:01


Jil, it would be cheaper to find a Roman for the groom job. You wouldn't have to worry about airfare and hotel costs; and, because of the language barrier, you wouldn't need to try to explain why you need him to be a groom.

Regarding the beret, there are a number of photos posted with that red manufacturer's label showing on the beret. One of our photo wizards should be able to blow up that label big enough to read it. It has to be from either a German or an Italian company, probably German since Papa is holding the same or similar beret in many photos when he was living in Germany. He looks so cute in that thing.
Jil
00domenica 26 febbraio 2006 18:16
It would be nice if every member of the forum had such a beret. We would always recognize eachother in Rome or so. [SM=g27817]


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www.dsds.ch/dsds3/kandidaten/nevio/Nevio%20-%20When%20you%20say%20nothing%20at%2...
TERESA BENEDETTA
00martedì 28 febbraio 2006 15:33
SPEAKING OF CRAP (EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE)...
If you want to have an idea about someone whom a British newspaper has called 'the world's greatest living artist', the kind of crap he produces and sells for millions, and his beyond-outrageous work and speaking habits, read it on Gerald Augustinus's blog closedcafeteria.blogspot.com/
(voted Best New Blog and finalist for other distinctions in the recently concluded 2006 Catholic Blog Awards in the USA).

His 2/28 blog (as of 9:20 EDT) leads off with a report and pictures on current Carnival outrages in Germany (where he grew up, it seems, before moving to San Diego where he converted to Catholicism two years ago, so you must scroll down to see the 'artist' item...He, also reports on Cardinal-designate Levada's recent statement about gays in the priesthood (which we have reported in NEWS ABOUT THE CHURCH).

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ABOUT THE BERET
JIL - I love the idea of the beret as a Benaddict accessory. I am still waiting for Simone or some photo wizard like her to figure out the brand of Ratzi's beret from the pictures!
TERESA BENEDETTA
00martedì 28 febbraio 2006 15:39
BLOG SENSE
I like this comment from Michelle Arnold in the blog http://www.jimmyakin.org/
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...this is why the WWJD slogan ("What Would Jesus Do?") sometimes annoys me. There are things that Jesus did that cannot and should not be modeled by Christians because what he did is unique to his being God. For example, it would be wrong to overturn tables and chase out the bingo players at your local parish on the premise that Jesus cleansed the temple of the moneychangers. In that case, trying to apply a WWJD template to the problem would give you exactly the wrong action to take in addressing the question of Wednesday-night bingo at Our Lady of the Gambling Den Parish Community

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benefan
00mercoledì 1 marzo 2006 23:43
ENOUGH WITH THE FLUFFINESS ALREADY

I think if I read one more reference by Rocco Palma to Papa as "His Fluffiness", I am going to start a boycott on his blog. I suppose Rocco thinks he is being cute and clever by repeatedly calling Papa that idiotic name (twice in his posts today and one additional remark about Papa's "fluffy" hair). I personally think it just illustrates Rocco's shallowness and lack of imagination. I have been patient and silent about his daily name-calling but I think I have reached the saturation point. I think it is well past time for him to move on beyond twittering about Papa's clothes, hair, and associates and maybe try to focus on Papa's words and their effects. It's time to grow up already. There!


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TERESA BENEDETTA
00giovedì 2 marzo 2006 02:22
THE TROUBLE WITH ROCCO
...is that he is trying to be an informed reporter as well as a gossip columnist at the same time. Which he could be on his blog, if he knew how to distinguish between news and gossip, between formal reporting of facts, and cheeky, flippant purveying of gossip and chitchat - and drew the line clearly in his posts. But he throws them all together in the same pot, and it doesn't help that he is always trying to be cute.

His Fluffiness, indeed - who but him uses that at all? It is neither appropriate, clever nor cute, but just plain SILLY and grossly misleading, since fluffiness is usually taken to mean flakiness, and do we really want any suggestion, gaining currency because of loose usage, that the Pope is flaky? Hey, I'm all for informal tags and all that if they are truly cute, clever and right!

Perhaps Rocco should take a cue from the fact that he was not nominated in any category at all (!) in the recent Catholic Blog Awards - where someone like Curt Jester or Jimmy Akin won in 3-4 categories. It probably means that his peers in the blogosphere do not take him seriously enough. (Does he really care, though, since he has made it to the New York Times and they have not!)

I would have thought he could have been nominated for a category like Most Informative Blog, as he does seem to have the inside track, or at least seems to keep himself well-informed, about what's happening in the higher echelons of the Church in America. (But then his peers are in a better position to judge how right on he is with such reports). I'm not so sure about his Vatican sources, because he really hasn't gotten that much ahead of anybody in speculating about what B16 will do next!

Keep an eye on Gerald Augustinus of "The Cafeteria is Closed" (voted Best New Blog) - a recent Catholic convert like many of the best Catholic bloggers, who has the eminent advantage of having lived in Europe till a few years ago and has the gift of tongues, including German.

And there should have been a category for the kind of comprehensive blogging that Christopher Blosser does - he's a genius at ferreting out a multitude of sources, picking out the gist from them, and organizing everything into a challenging and provocative reading adventure for anyone who wants to follow. Did you see what he did recently at the RFC on Steven Speilberg's "Munich"? (On 1/27/06, he opened a thread called 'Reflections on Spielberg's 'Munich"' in the Catholic Ethics section of the forum - it's a monumentally mind-blowing blog, but the last time I checked, only 14 people had visited it, and no one posted a comment. (Neither did I because the issue overwhelms me, I have not yet seen the movie, and I have a lot of reading to do before I can put in my two bits).

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Maklara
00giovedì 2 marzo 2006 12:01
Here is my list of blogs I often visit:

The Curt Jester

The Cafeteria Is Closed by Gerald Augustinus (native austrian livin in San Diego, California)

The Shrine of Holy Whapping made by group of students from University of Notre Dame..winner of best group catholic blog 2006

AmericanPapist: Not Your Average Catholic !...very funny comments of pictures
TERESA BENEDETTA
00venerdì 3 marzo 2006 02:27
ANYONE FOR POST-MODERN PHILOSOPHY?
Thanks to Gerald Augustinus of http://closedcafeteria.blogspot.com/
for passing this on - And these men are supposed to be thinkers? Mind you, some 'illustrious' names are in the list!

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What happens when philosophy is no longer the handmaiden of theology? John Derbyshire has the answer:

Top ten reasons why Postmodernist philosophers should be burned alive in public squares atop piles of their books. (All taken from Stanley J. Grenz's A Primer on Postmodernism.)

10. Whether we take the signified or the signifiers, language has neither ideas nor sounds that existed before the linguistic system, but only conceptual and phonic differences that have issued from the system. (Ferdinand de Saussure, Course in General Linguistics, p.120.)

9. Knowledge ... creates a progressive enslavement to its instinctive violence. (Michel Foucault, Language, Counter-Memory, and Practice, p.163.)

8. No longer a coherent cognito, man now inhabits the interstices, "the vacant interstellar spaces," not as an object, still less as a subject... (Edward Said, Beginnings: Intention and Method, p. 286.)

7. Understanding belongs to the being of that which is understood. (Hans-Georg Gadamer, Truth and Method, p.xix.)

6. Post-modernism signals the death of such "metanarratives" whose secretly terroristic function is to ground and legitimate the illusion of a "universal" human history. (Terry Eagleton, Awakening from Modernity, p.194.)

5. Does truth, then, arise out of nothing? It does indeed if by nothing is meant the mere not of that which is, and if we here think of that which is as an object present in the ordinary way, and thereafter comes to light and is challenged by the existence of the work as only presumptively a true being. (Martin Heidegger, Poetry, Language, Thought, p.71.)

4. The author is therefore the ideological figure by which one marks the manner in which we fear the proliferation of meaning. (Michel Foucault, What Is An Author? p.159.)

3. It is these predicates ... whose force of generality, generalization, and generativity find themselves liberated, grafted onto a "new" concept of writing which also corresponds to whatever always has resisted the former organization of forces, which always has constituted the rmainder irreducible to the dominant force which organized the -- to say it quickly -- logocentric hierarchy. (Jacques Derrida, Margins of Philosophy, pp.329-330.)

2. Truths are illusions of which one has forgotten that this is what they are. (Friedrich Nietzsche, The Portable Nietzsche, p.47.)

1. In the naming, the things named are called into their thinging. Thinging, they unfold world, in which things abide and so are abiding ones. (Martin Heidegger, Poetry, Language, Thought, pp.199-200.)

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THINGING??? Ooooh, the arrogance of so-called intellect! Aren't we taught that if you can't express yourself clearly and simply, it only means you are not thinking clearly? Apparently, these 'philosophers' value obfuscation above everything else.

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Maklara
00venerdì 3 marzo 2006 14:07
I am posting the video which is not relating with Papa but it is about cats so I think there is small affinity.
Enjoy it. [SM=g27811]

Katzen beim spielen und gespielt werden

TERESA BENEDETTA
00domenica 5 marzo 2006 21:41
RIFFRAFF AND THINGS
This forum (the entire forum, I mean) appears to be attracting quite a few self-identified neo-pagans and other non-Christian participants. I frankly do not see what they think they will gain out of a forum that is dedicated to the head of the Catholic Church. But they have been quite 'diligent' in starting 'discussions' of sorts in the FORUM-proper of the main forum, and one of them even got into our space with a totally gratuitous and offensive comment on Papa's picture with the boy at the UCID audience.

But probably the most interesting 'discussion' in the main forum lately had to do with a member, one of teh self-declared neo-pagans, who announced casually one day that he was going to be seeing the Pope at an intimate gathering with his uncle (he names him), said to be a monsignor in Catania, Sicily, who, according to him, just got back from training in Oxford. He says his uncle runs homes in Italy that take care of children with Down's syndrome.

In his next post he says, oh yeah, by the way, I saw the Pope last weekend and he spoke to me for 10 minutes. No details. So, of course, that had the Italian girls asking him, "Really? Tell us about it, and did you take any pictures?"

So he says, - Yeah, it took place in a building near the Vatican, the Pope was there for two hours, there were drinks, there were other priests, bishops and archbishops, about 60 people; the Pope talked to me and asked me about my studies..No, I did not take pictures, it was just another meeting...[In effect, HO-HUM!]

You can imagine the incredulous posts that followed from the girls, challenging him directly to "Show us proof...if the Pope was there, even if you did not take pictures, surely someone else did...and how did it get from what you first said would be an intimate gathering of about 10 people to a reception for 60 or more..."

So, I thought you might be interested in some of the bizarre things that can happen on the forum...

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maryjos
00domenica 5 marzo 2006 22:14
Yes, it's sad indeed!
Teresa - These people are so sad! If someone claims to have seen Joseph Ratzinger three times [including having dinner with him] and then forgets and says it was twice....remember?...we all just dismiss it. Funny that such people never give details, let alone photos! We, who truly love our Papa, have fun and we DO say how much we love him. We are at least honest about it.
Yet, we do get criticised. The real geeks who need help are the people like the one you mentioned. Let's hope they go and play somewhere else soon.
Pax et Bonum! God bless!
Mary x [SM=g27811]
benefan
00lunedì 6 marzo 2006 03:16
HO-HUM? OH NO!!!


How could anyone with even half a brain and part of a heart be ho-hum about meeting Papa? Not possible!!! The man is so brilliant AND beautiful that he would blow all but a two-legged amoeba away. And even the amoeba would probably be stunned into immobilized wonder.

NanMN
00lunedì 6 marzo 2006 03:28
he would blow all but a two-legged amoeba away...
Unfortunately, I know people who are totally unimpressed by our beloved Papa. 1 such person is a Catholic that I used to work with. She had loved JP2 a great deal and wanted to know when B16 was going to "get his head out of the dark ages and let priests get married". I know others too. It amazes me that they don't see what a very special gift God gave The Church and thus mankind on April 19th. Any way, I'm head-over-heels crazy for him (just in case no one could tell)!!! [SM=x40799] [SM=x40799] [SM=x40799]
TERESA BENEDETTA
00lunedì 6 marzo 2006 04:13
Oh, Nan, I wouldn't know how to keep my cool if I knew someone like your friend! Her love for JP-II is no excuse to be deliberately blind and ignorant about his successor. And why does she expect Papa to allow married priests when JP-II would not (and could not, of course, being Pope and true to the Magisterium)? But you don't argue with closed minds - they are also usually "small" minds.

As for the "case" I described earlier, it wasn't so much about someone who was unimpressed at meeting Papa, but about whether the alleged meeting happened at all!

And MaryJos, yes indeed, I remember. Has anyone heard from her lately?



benefan
00lunedì 6 marzo 2006 04:49

@Teresa: "As for the "case" I described earlier, it wasn't so much about someone who was unimpressed at meeting Papa, but about whether the alleged meeting happened at all!"

Benefan: Oh.


@Nan: "Any way, I'm head-over-heels crazy for him (just in case no one could tell)!!!"

Benefan: I'm glad you finally revealed that, Nan. It's best not to keep these things bottled up inside you.
TERESA BENEDETTA
00lunedì 6 marzo 2006 06:09
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Visit his blog for the full flavor. The first 2 products are posted in his 3/5/06 blog, the gum on 2/28
.


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century so choose what tastes fit your tastes and not be bound by dogmatic definitions of
Spearmint, Wintergreen, etc. Why be universal or have a consistent gum flavor.
At one time all the gum was the same till the advent of Babelgum with its towering
taste that is different for everyone....
lutheranguest
00lunedì 6 marzo 2006 19:16
Katzen beim spielen ……
Very creative cats! Thanks Maklara!

riffraff…..
Thanks for the info, Teresa. Appreciated! I guess we’ve all noticed one or two ”strange” posts.

Nan!!??
Really?? I’m glad you told us. I never would have guessed... [SM=g27828] [SM=g27828] [SM=g27828]

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NanMN
00martedì 7 marzo 2006 00:16
Unfortunately Teresa I had to keep my cool because she only confronted me with her views at work. She wasn't really a friend-just a co-worker. But I did ask why she felt the need for priests to be married. She said to help bring more young men into the seminary. I ever so politely told her that there is a shortage of pastors across the board. It doesn't matter the denomination-Catholic AND Protestant are seeing the crunch. So married priests aren't the glorious solution. She challenged me, "How do you know?" I explained that my late brother had been a Methodist minister and had been the chairman of the Membership Committee for his conference. She was more quiet after that.

eheheheheheheh! Yes, Benefan and Lutheranguest, I'm glad I decided to let my true feelings out of the bag... no sense hiding my feelings behind a bush is there?! [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838] [SM=g27838]
benefan
00martedì 7 marzo 2006 02:30

@ Nan: "Yes, Benefan and Lutheranguest, I'm glad I decided to let my true feelings out of the bag... no sense hiding my feelings behind a bush is there?!"

Benefan: I am so glad you finally felt comfortable enough with us, Nan, to share your feelings. Repressing your emotions can cause major psychic damage. Please feel free to express yourself anytime at all. Don't hold back any longer. That goes for you too, Maryjos

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maryjos
00mercoledì 8 marzo 2006 15:03
He must have guessed......
Nan, Benefan......yes, I agree, it's bad to keep your feelings bottled up. In order to maintain a modicum of sanity, we have to let rip!!!! [SM=x40799] Now me, I just tell it how it is, don't I !!!!! [SM=g27829] [SM=g27829] [SM=g27829] Well, Nan, I never realised.....hmmmmmmmmm! But, surely Papa must have guessed that he has that "je ne sais quoi"* that knocks us women over! He needs his Mutti, his teddy bear...and me! He can be such a little boy -the way he looks sideways [SM=g27836] ; then again, he's the authoritarian Papa who knows so much, has written so much and certainly knows how to steer the Church.....so he's a contradiction. Heck - I've probably written all this before, maybe in slightly different words.
* Papa, that's "Nescio quid" to you, because I know how you love Latin!
How am I going to get through this week? No audience today...Papa in retreat. Can anyone attend the lectures? Could a little one [me!!! ha ha] and Pooh Bear just sneak in? We'll be silent - honest! [SM=x40796]
Love, Mary x [SM=g27811]

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NanMN
00giovedì 9 marzo 2006 02:15
Well, Nan, I never realised.....hmmmmmmmmm!

Somehow I knew that I would shock my fellow Sisters by letting it be known that I am head-over-heels for Papa. Note to self: in the future do not restrain and/or repress your feelings.
[SM=g27818] [SM=g27820]: [SM=g27825] Are you all sure you can handle me unrestrained?!?!?! [SM=g27823] [SM=g27824] [SM=g27827]: [SM=g27835] [SM=x40799] [SM=x40800]
benefan
00giovedì 9 marzo 2006 05:16
NAN,

If we managed to survive Simone's riotous reaction to the Papa-in-a-tracksuit photo, I think we can handle anything you can throw at us. If we can deal with Maryjos' flights into outer space whenever Papa's photo appears, we can hold on while you "express your feelings". I'll admit I had absolutely no clue you felt so strongly about Papa, considering how reserved, restrained, and sober you have been in all your posts; but now that you have confessed your true feelings about him, now that you have come out of the closet and identified yourself as a Benaddict, I can certainly understand and sympathize. Please feel free to continue to speak openly and truthfully. In fact, just to be supportive of your "condition", I think we need to find more of those little emoti-whatevers, perhaps something with flashing eyes, flapping wings, a gigantic smile and bouncing up and down on a trampoline to the tune of a tasteful snippet of Gregorian chant

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TERESA BENEDETTA
00sabato 11 marzo 2006 22:12
BENADDICTS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
Nan, as MaryJos says (and does), LET IT RIP! I wish I could be as colorful and inventive as most of you to describe my Benaddiction!

But you know some "high-minded" types in the other forum look down at our joyful prattle and find it offensive, though it puzzles me why they even bother to visit this forum if we are so offensive!

That is why we created this space, to begin with, because the administration at RFC decided that a) that forum should only be for serious discussions; b) "gushing" about the Holy Father is unseemly and must be discouraged; and therefore c) stop all this nonsense of posting pictures galore because first of all, you are putting the forum at legal risk for copyright infringement, and there are just too many pictures, and all this attention to the Holy Father's personal appearance is just not healthy! Oh, and please do not make too many posts because that will scare other people from posting! (I never could see the logic in that!) But as a forum member, one must obey the rules and regulations. So, fine.

Thank God for Ratzigirl and cyber-Italy, we found a space without the restrictions imposed at RFC. Nor do we have to resort to hypocritical ruses to get pictures (that are still copyrighted, mind you, even without the marks) into our posts...And I thought we had all settled into a modus vivendi - live and let live - on both sides of the cyber-ocean.

Then I find I am being called to task in that forum for general inappropriateness towards the Pope because among other things, I once said, in this forum, that I would love to touch his hair or better still, run my hand through it, and God knows what other bounds of “propriety” I have flagrantly violated in expressing my utter and complete enslavement and devotion to him. Or because I commented on a picture of Papa as an affectionate nudge to Simone that "there's a few inches of Papa's arm showing, Simone!" And I am being tasteless when I express my negative opinions (which I always direct at specific criticisms that I seek to rebut) about critics of the Pope!

But why does anyone go into high dudgeon about things that are taking place completely outside their space, yet at the same time, keep defending critics of the Pope by saying "Joseph Ratzinger would just laugh off their criticism (or lies, or distortions, or misrepresentations)"?

Well, I say, Joseph Ratzinger would just laugh his head off at the idea of women obsessing about him, perhaps feel a bit gratified and awed that he arouses the affection that he does, and would then say a prayer for his devotees that we will not forget 'Nulla anteporre a Cristo' (Let nothing or no one come before Christ). And he would certainly appreciate it that many of us came back to the Faith or reinforced our faith, and are keeping the faith by trying to be as good Christians as we can be, because of his spiritual inspiration.

One other point was brought up - that "we already know the man is gorgeous, why keep saying it again and again?" Fine, then those who don't want to be repetitive can simply desist. But who's to stop us from saying it over and over if we want to? When you love someone, do you tire of saying you love them or of singing their praises?

And to think that the pretext used for the broadside at me was because I described Rocco Palma's term "His Fluffiness" as silly! It is silly, and Rocco has his good points, as I wrote in an earlier post, but I am not kowtowing to him or anyone just because they are perceived to be 'important,' 'influential,' or 'in the know'.

Anyway, let me end by paraphrasing an infamous manifesto and conflating it with some wise words from Benedict: "Benaddicts of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain in opening yourself to Christ" (through the good offices of his Vicar on earth!) .

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TERESA BENEDETTA
00sabato 11 marzo 2006 22:32
PAPARATZIFAN'S LITANY FOR BENEDETTO
I am still chuckling about a post by Paparatzifan in the main forum, provoked by
a comment from Nessuna, "Che bel Papa che abbiamo!" (What a beautiful Pope we have!).

Paparatzifan said that might well serve as the response line for a litany of Benedict,
as recited by the Sisters of Sante Coccole, and she forthwith provides us with some
invocations that would go into such a "secular litany". Clever thought, and for those
who might think this is blasphemy, it's just a lighthearted take-off in case you
can't recognize it...


Benedetto XVI,
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Sei la nostra gioia, [You are our joy]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Sei sempre nei nostri pensieri, [You are always in our thoughts]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Nostro rifugio splendente, [Our shining refuge]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Luce dei nostri sogni, [Light of our dreams]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Anima delle nostre giornate, [Guiding spirit of our daily lives]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Consolazione nelle notti buie, [Consolation in our dark moments]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Destinatario della nostra preghiera, [Object of our prayers]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Stella delle nostre vite, [Star of our lives]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Dolcezza del nostro cuore, [Sweetness of our hearts]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Affascinante ai nostri occhi, [Fascination for our eyes]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Causa delle nostre follie, [Cause of our madness]
Che bel Papa che abbiamo!

Contributions to the invocations are welcome!
Maklara
00sabato 11 marzo 2006 22:33
exactly written, Theresa
I totally agree with you, especially in the case of Ratzingerfanclub.com
Awesome, our italian sister gives to us opportunity and freedom to continue in this forum.


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