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Comunque, in attesa delle tue citazioni, cito qualcosa io: www.roswellfiles.com/credits.htm

E' in inglese, mi spiace tanto, ma sono sicuro che con un po' di impegno ce la si può fare.

La prima intervista di Brazel:

www.roswellfiles.com/Witnesses/brazel.htm


Interview with Mac Brazel
Roswell Daily Chronicle, July 9, 1947

W.W. Brazel, 48, Lincoln county rancher living 30 miles south east of Corona, today told his story of finding what the army at first described as a flying disk, but the publicity which attended his find caused him to add that if he ever found anything short of a bomb he sure wasn't going to say anything about it.

Brazel was brought here late yesterday by W.E. Whitmore, of radio station KGFL, had his picture taken and gave an interview to the Record and Jason Kellahin, sent here from the Albuquerque bureau of the Associated Press to cover the story. The picture he posed for was sent out over the AP telephoto wire sending machine specially set up in the Record office by R. D. Adair, AP wire chief sent here for the sole purpose of getting out the picture and that of sheriff George Wilcox, to whom Brazel originally gave the information of his find.

Brazel related that on June 14 he and 8-year-old son, Vernon were about 7 or 8 miles from the ranch house of the J.B. Foster ranch, which he operates, when they came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up on rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks.

At the time Brazel was in a hurry to get his round made and he did not pay much attention to it. But he did remark about what he had seen and on July 4 he, his wife, Vernon, and a daughter Betty, age 14, went back to the spot and gathered up quite a bit of the debris.

The next day he first heard about the flying disks, and he wondered if what he had found might be the remnants of one of these.

Monday he came to town to sell some wool and while here he went to see sheriff George Wilcox and "whispered kinda confidential like" that he might have found a flying disk.

Wilcox got in touch with the Roswell Army Air Field and Maj. Jesse A. Marcel and a man in plain clothes accompanied him home, where they picked up the rest of the pieces of the "disk" and went to his home to try to reconstruct it.

According to Brazel they simply could not reconstruct it at all. They tried to make a kite out of it, but could not do that and could not find any way to put it back together so that it would fit.

Then Major Marcel brought it to Roswell and that was the last he heard of it until the story broke that he had found a flying disk.

Brazel said that he did not see it fall from the sky and did not see it before it was torn up, so he did not know the size or shape it might have been, but he thought it might have been about as large as a table top. The balloon which held it up, if that was how it worked, must have been about 12 feet long, he felt, measuring the distance by the size of the room in which he sat. The rubber was smoky gray in color and scattered over an area about 200 yards in diameter.

When the debris was gathered up the tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks made a bundle about three feet long and 7 or 8 inches thick, while the rubber made a bundle about 18 or 20 inches long and about 8 inches thick. In all, he estimated, the entire lot would have weighed maybe five pounds.

There was no sign of any metal in the area which might have been used for an engine and no sign of any propellers of any kind, although at least one paper fin had been glued onto some of the tinfoil.

There were no words to be found anywhere on the instrument, although there were letters on some of the parts. Considerable scotch tape and some tape with flowers printed upon it had been used in the construction.

No strings or wire were to be found but there were some eyelets in the paper to indicate that some sort of attachment may have been used.

Brazel said that he had previously found two weather balloons on the ranch, but that what he found this time did not in any way resemble either of these.

"I am sure what I found was not any weather observation balloon," he said. "But if I find anything else besides a bomb they are going to have a hard time getting me to say anything about it."



La figlia Bessie: www.roswellfiles.com/Witnesses/Bessie.htm


The Problem with Bessie- Bessie (Brazel) Schrieber

Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt, in Roswell On-line Vol 1 no. 2, attacked Karl Pflock who has abandoned the crashed spaceship explanation, and explain why they don't consider Bessie Brazel's tale worth repeating in their books:

"Bessie was 14 years old at the time of the incident and recalls accompanying her father, Mac Brazel, to the debris field. She describes the wreckage as resembling parts of a kite. This certainly doesn't sound other worldly, but it does sound a lot like a balloon.

The problem is that only Bessie can place herself on the scene at that time. Her brother Bill has never mentioned her specific presence, and Pflock neglects to interview him for clarification. Furthermore, the Stricklands and Proctors, Mac Brazel's neighbors, don't place her on the scene either. This does not mean that Bessie is fabricating her story. Since Mac Brazel had collected one or two weather balloons before the crash in question, Bessie may simply be associating one of those with it. What's important is that her presence within the critical time frame cannot be corroborated, and her testimony cannot be considered conclusive."
(ROSWELL REPORTER, On Line Volume 1, No. 2)

So no one can place Bessie at the ranch at this time, and her presence cannot be corroborated?

Well, what about the Mac Brazel interview?

"Brazel related that on June 14 he and 8-year-old son, Vernon were about 7 or 8 miles from the ranch house of the J.B. Foster ranch, which he operates, when they came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up on rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks.

At the time Brazel was in a hurry to get his round made and he did not pay much attention to it. But he did remark about what he had seen and on July 4 he, his wife, Vernon, and a daughter Betty, age 14, went back to the spot and gathered up quite a bit of the debris."
(Roswell Daily Record - July 9, 1947)

So, according to Mac Brazel, Bessie was at the ranch and helped pick up the debris. Which is exactly what she claims.

What about Randle and Schmitt's claim that... "Her brother Bill has never mentioned her specific presence" ?

"Dad was in the ranch house with two of the younger kids ... so the next day he rounded up the two kids and took off for Roswell..." (1)
(The Roswell Incident, pg 85 & 86)

So according to Bill, and contrary to what Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt claimed, Bessie was at the ranch with her father and mother and her other brother Vernon! Which agrees with what the newspaper said back in 1947!

Still, Randle quotes Bill a lot, but he forgets that Bill definitely wasn't at the scene!

And what about the Stricklands and the Proctors? They weren't at the scene either!

So the only person who was interviewed, and we can really place at the scene, is Bessie, based on her father's account of the story and her brother Bill's account!

Then there are Randle and Schmitt's comments on Bessie's age:

"Bessie was 14 years old ..."

Well, Jessie Marcel, Jr. was only 11 years old! Yet, they quote him extensively! And why doesn't Randle quote Bessie- the only person whom he has talked with that was actually on the scene?

Because, what Bessie said was:

"The debris looked like pieces of a large balloon which had burst. The pieces were small, the largest I remember measuring about the same as the diameter of a basketball. Most of it was a kind of double-sided material, foil-like on one side and rubber-like on the other... Sticks, like kite sticks, were attacked to some of the pieces with a whitish tape. The tape was about two or three inches wide and had flower-like designs on it. The 'flowers' were faint, a variety of pastel colors... The foil-rubber material could not be torn like ordinary aluminum foil... I do not recall anything else about the strength or other properties of what we picked up. We spent several hours collecting the debris and putting it into sacks. I believe we filled about three sacks... We speculated a bit about what the material could be. I remember dad (Mac Brazel) saying 'Oh, it's just a bunch of garbage.' "

When Bessie was shown the November/December 1990 issue of the International UFO Reporter (IUR), Pages 6, 7, and 8 of that issue showed the Roswell photographs. She later wrote:

"The debris shown does look like the debris we picked up."
(Jan 10, 1994 letter from Bessie Brazel Schrieber)

Even Randle admits that those photographs are of ML-307 radar target(s) and weather sounding balloon(s).

So the debris from a supposed crashed alien spaceship looks exactly like ML-307 radar targets and weather sounding balloons!

(1) That is the trip in which he reported to Wilcox:

" ...(Brazel) told the sheriff he didn't know just what the disc was, but that at first it appeared to be a weather meter. The sheriff's office notified the army, which sent intelligence officers to pick up the object. Then today the army announced possession of a disc.

"The sheriff quoted (Brazel) as saying the object 'seemed more or less like tinfoil.' The rancher described the disc as about as large as a safe in the sheriff's office. The safe is about three and one-half by four feet."
(The Wyoming Eagle - July 9, 1947)



Traducete come vi pare, ma qui non c'è neanche l'ombra di astronavi precipitate.
Per me il caso è più che chiuso.