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benefan
00lunedì 4 luglio 2011 06:45

Welcome back, Mary!

I am glad to see that you weren't serious about discontinuing your trips to see Papa. You have always been one of his most ardent fans. I think he would be devastated if he didn't see you in the crowd several times a year.

Please do post some of your pics. We are in desperate need of them and of any commentary you can give us on your trip.

We are getting parched here.

flo_51
00lunedì 4 luglio 2011 11:33

Dear Mary

Me too, i was thinking "she can't be serious saying she will no longer go to Rome". By the way, I plan to go to Rome a week in october. Could you give me some adresses of hotels near Vatican ?

Giselle 1
00mercoledì 6 luglio 2011 22:26
Re: SEEING BENEDICT 'BY CHANCE' IN LORENZAGO
TERESA BENEDETTA, 19.07.2007 08:28:


Gloria (Paparatzifan) lives in Mestre, the part of Venice that's located on the mainland, and it's where she starts off, for her reconnaissance mission last Monday to Lorenzago.

Mestre station, 12:15 p.m. July 16, 2007. Departure for Calalzo. The sun is beating down hard and the temperature is shooting up. But that's OK - the two-car local train is air-conditioned.

This Pope-related adventure is different from before. I have my bike with me and its loaded with flasks of icecold water, fruit juice, cookies, apples and bananas, my reading glasses, and all sort of newspapers to read on the trip. I know I'm facing a hard day of physical effort made doubly difficult by the heat. But I'm all ready for it.




The last stretch just before the town limits is particularly difficult with a lot of curves, but when I catch sight of the sign that says 'LORENZAGO DI CADORE' (it's 800 meters above sea level), I put everything into it!















I have a sore throat the next day....And as I write, I think I have caught a cold. I hope it doesn't turn into the flu....I'm supposed to join up with Gabriella and Beatrice on Sunday for the Angelus....And Papino, no sneezes will keep me from hoping once more to look into your eyes!




Hello,
I am sorry for the long quote and tried to delete some.
As a member of the Amici di papa Luciani and a great fan of Papa Luciani I think I´ve seen you before on the internet.
The world is a small world.
www.papaluciani.com/ita/

Two years ago during the Raduno of Amici di Papa Luciani I met Papa Luciani´s niece (forgot the name now)in Rome.
In 2008 in Brescia I met Pia Luciani during the events "Papa Luciani, il catechista del mondo" and "Il Pontefici del ´78".

Actually I thought I would never love a pope like Papa Luciani.
By now I have to admit I was wrong....... [SM=g27835]



benefan
00giovedì 7 luglio 2011 06:22

So you know Gloria....

Giselle, did you know that Gloria (Paparatzifan on this forum) not only was moderator of the Papa Luciani forum that you belonged to but also the Benedetto XVI forum (http://benedettoxviforum.freeforumzone.leonardo.it/)? You two girls definitely have similar tastes.






Giselle 1
00giovedì 7 luglio 2011 07:06
See!
Sooner or later it comes together what belongs together.....

So this Benedettoxvi forum does not exist anymore?

What do you mean by "sharing the same taste" exactly? Hehe. [SM=g27836]
benefan
00venerdì 8 luglio 2011 05:49

Giselle,

The Benedetto XVI Forum does still exist. It is actually fairly new. If you use the URL I posted, it will take you there. Also, there is a link at the bottom of the front page of our forum that you can click on to get there. Although that forum is written in Italian, there is a very nice English section. Lots of photos and articles.





Giselle 1
00venerdì 8 luglio 2011 09:55
Re:
Hi,
thanks for the info. I visited a few times by now, followed the over 170 pages of daily news with nice pictures in the Italien section (after being a member of the Amici di Papa Luciani, I slowly learn Italian little by little), but did not register yet.

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TERESA BENEDETTA
00domenica 10 luglio 2011 07:44
I checked in just now to see if Mary has posted her photos of her last visit to Rome yet...I hope she does so soon....

Meanwhile, Gisele - and forgive me, PRF girls, for 'advertising' here - you might be glad to know that Gloria's Benedetto XVI Forum does have an English section - which is an all-about-Benedict and mostly-about-Benedict news-and-magazine format, not a Forum, although it is, of course, open to anyone to post and comment
benedettoxviforum.freeforumzone.leonardo.it/cartella.aspx?c=169318&f=169318&id...

If you do visit, you will notice I have more and more gotten away from having multiple threads, because the main reason anyone would drop into any website about Benedict XVI would be to get news about him, and that some folks would appreciate a one-stop shop and not have to navigate through several threads to find out what's new, nor even have to pursue hyperlinks...

BTW, if my name appears almost permanently on the home page as a visitor, it's because I still keep my utility files for logos, thematic banners, etc. in the Cestino dei Rifiuti section, which used to be our 'wastebasket', as the name says, for things that were purged from the Forum when the Italian section was still alive and drawing a lot of malicious posts. I got permission to use it as a holding pen for my utility files and work in progress, like pending translations, or ambitious but unaccomplished attempts to spin off the stories on apostolic and pastoral visits from the NEWS ABOUT BENEDICT thread, as I used to be able to do. It's a section that is open only to administrators, so many may have no idea what I'm talking about.


Giselle 1
00domenica 10 luglio 2011 12:50

Hi,

I am already reading every day if there is something new in the English section of this forum. I think it is good to have less threads and keeps a better overview.

I am also reading in the Pope Benedict Fanclub forum, but I do not want to register everywhere to avoid getting confused.

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Hello, Giselle! I am a moderator, so I'm able to leave messages within your posts. Please send me an ffz mail or email me at: mary@maryhutchings.wanadoo.co.uk Important! Lovely to have such a bright new member on the forum, by the way!
maryjos
00sabato 16 luglio 2011 12:59
ROME JUNE 2011
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Here's a photo Susana found on the OR website and she has put pointers to where we are. I'm not about to jump over the barrier, but I look as if I'm going to try to touch Papa's hand! This was at the end of the Pallium Mass, June 29th. Rome was amazing, as always, and even the heat at 35 degrees Celsius didn't bother me.

I've posted a few photos on the Chatter thread and have some others to post here.
maryjos
00sabato 16 luglio 2011 13:15
ROMAN HOLIDAY
@Flo: You mentioned going to Rome. I can give you the address you need. Please email me or ffz mail me.
Ton amie! Mary x
Giselle 1
00lunedì 18 luglio 2011 13:38
Re:
Giselle 1, 10.07.2011 12:50:


Hi,

I am already reading every day if there is something new in the English section of this forum. I think it is good to have less threads and keeps a better overview.

I am also reading in the Pope Benedict Fanclub forum, but I do not want to register everywhere to avoid getting confused.

[SM=g27828]

Hello, Giselle! I am a moderator, so I'm able to leave messages within your posts. Please send me an ffz mail or email me at: mary@maryhutchings.wanadoo.co.uk Important! Lovely to have such a bright new member on the forum, by the way!



DONE! [SM=g27828]


Giselle 1
00domenica 21 agosto 2011 16:25

Hello all,
at the beginning of July this this year my friend planned to drive to Regensburg for private issues. I spontaneously decided to follow her and follow the footprints of Papa Ratzinger in Regensburg. [SM=x40791] It was a great and hot summer weekend.
I deliver the first impressions of the old city here:


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tja pech gehabt, floflo

And here: In front of the dome:

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The Two Towers. Ehm, the two spires I mean......too much Tolkien.

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And inside the dome:

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It was nice and cool inside of the dome.

I thought this stone on the bottom of the crypta was very impressive: In memory of a priest who got killed by the Nazis: Dr. Johann Maier RIP Unfortunately a tourist guide and his tourists had been standing on it for quite a while, so I had to wait to take this pic.

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And in the corner of the first church (Stiftskirche St. Johann) we visited: A candle with the portrait of His Holiness:

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I went to the "Kath. Kirche Kollegialstift unserer Lieben Frau zur alten Kapelle" where the huge organ named "Papst Benedikt Orgel" was blessed by Papa himself in 2006.
Here from the outside:

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And inside:

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The "Pope-Benedict-organ":

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For a better impression see the following links:

The HP of the organ

The HP of the church

A memorial tablet remembering His visit in 2006:

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In a side chapel was another candle with a portrait of Papa remembering His visit in 2006:

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Giselle 1
00domenica 21 agosto 2011 17:16
later more..................

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Simone55
00domenica 21 agosto 2011 22:45
Giselle:

really beautiful photos, Regensburg is such a great place.
Thank you for posting the photos. [SM=g27811]
I guess, it is you on the second pic. Nice to see you.

maryjos
00lunedì 22 agosto 2011 00:37
Beautiful photos, Giselle! I love those baroque churches. Unfortunately my 2007 Bavarian pilgrimage did not include Regensburg. If I had been the organiser we would certainly have gone there!

I'm so glad you've been there!
_benevolens_
00martedì 23 agosto 2011 20:50
Lovely photos Giselle, thank you very much for sharing!

_benevolens_
00mercoledì 24 agosto 2011 00:18
Castelgandolfo 15 August 2011

After last year's once-in-a-lifetime experience at Castelgandolfo I just knew I had to try my luck again this year. As all who have been blessed enough to have seen Papa close up or even shake his hand know, you do get addicted to the experience and you want it again and again and again...
So off I went and met up in CG with benedetto.fan (who'll kill me for telling you, not because she doesn't want anyone to know but because she hates for people to pester her to post her photos quickly - sorry carissima [SM=g27828]) and some other German ladies (not active members of the forum but long-standing Benaddicts).

As we get to the barriers at 5.30 am while it's still dark we are among the first there, while - some things never change - our Bavarian friend with the white baseball cap and her 'shadow' are there already of course. A little later Mary, an Irish friend of our Mary, also arrives. We take up our positions at the exact same place as last year hoping Papa will go through the same routine also shaking people's hands before entering the San Tommaso church.

As daylight arrives and the activity gathers pace one of the first to arrive is Msgr. Marini



followed by the 'usual suspects' like Bishop Harvey and the Swiss guard commandant:




As the Memores Domini sisters make their way to the church I remember with sadness how last year Manuela Camagni was still among them, and I can't bring myself to take a picture.



Then it's the turn of dear Msgr. Georg Ratzinger. Very very slowly he walks down the street, aided by his usual helper and two walking sticks. Despite his much deteriorated condition he smiles happily as he is greeted by warm applause.





A few minutes later the excitement reaches fever pitch as the papal party emerge from the palace. As we are standing quite far down the street almost opposite the entrance of San Tommaso church our view is blocked for the first few moments and we can only see what's going on by looking at the video screen. Then he comes into view for real.

Our hearts are beginning to sink as we notice that Papa moves along without going over to people to shake their hands for the first several metres. I try to take pictures but it's really really hard as Papa is shielded so closely by the security people, they are almost constantly completely surrounding him, not just walking next to and behind him. I notice that the atmosphere was much more relaxed in this respect last year, so these pics are the best I could manage at this stage:




All our hopes and dreams seem to be fulfilled as Papa then starts moving closer to the barriers and taking people's hands all the same. By doing this he disappears from sight again and the next thing I know is that Papa is suddenly 'upon us'. Someone holds a baby up to him next to me. He takes the baby's head in his hands and kisses it. His left hand is virtually only inches away from my face at this point and I cannot resist to stroke it. Such a tender moment which I'll treasure for ever.





I extend my hand and he actually takes it! Wow, what can I say? I think no words can describe what you feel at this moment. A mixture of awe, elation and utter love. I say a few words of encouragement to him which he acknowledges with a slight nod of the head and the characteristic lowering of his eye lids. Far too soon the magic moment passes. The actual handshake was not captured by the photographers but I'm more than happy with these shots from Felici:




As Papa moves on the 'shock' of what I've just experienced hits me full force and I'm so overcome with emotion the tears just stream down my face. This is noticed by Msgr. Xuereb who's walking a little behind Papa. He asks in German why I'm in tears but I cannot manage a proper reply. He obviously thinks something's distressing me because then he says "Wir gehen nicht weg, wir bleiben hier" (we're not going away, we're staying here). I have since thought quite a bit what he meant by this but I haven't come to a conclusion. Any suggestions? He then shakes my hand and wishes me well before moving on too. What a kind and considerate gesture. I wish we would see this kind and mild-mannered man at Papa's side far more often.



Shortly before the mass ends the mini popemobile (or rather papal golf cart) is driven up in front of the entrance of the church. We're rather surprised and a bit worried thinking Papa must be in a rather bad way if they won't let him walk back the short distance to the palace. Then as Msgr. Georg Ratzinger emerges we realise of course that it's meant for him as he is sensibly spared the painful walk back. This way the popemobile becomes the bro-mobile [SM=g27828]





Then Papa himself reappears and we get a few more - very short - photo opportunities:












While Papa then makes his way back up the street (going over and shaking the hands of those he didn't coming down) we speed up to near the entrance of the papal palace to catch a final glimpse of him before he disappears inside:





(To be continued with some photos of the Angelus).

For now, good night! [SM=g27821]
benefan
00mercoledì 24 agosto 2011 05:42

Wow! What a bonanza!

Thanks, girls, for sharing the great photos above.

Giselle, Regensburg seems to be such a lovely city. I can see why Papa loved living and teaching there. Thanks for showing us so much of its beauty.

Benevolens, as expected, you have scored another goal. I knew if you went to Castel Gandolfo, you would manage to get close to Papa again. Your story and series of photos are spectacular. What a thrill to be able to touch him in such a loving way. It's wonderful that you have such a beautiful collection of photos to remember the moment. Thanks so much for sharing it all with us.

And now we wait for benedetto.fan who apparently also had a close encounter of the best kind with Papa. No pressure, benedetto.fan.

You lucky girls!



Simone55
00mercoledì 24 agosto 2011 12:07

You did it again! Congratulations, benevolens! [SM=x40799]
You and benedetto.fan and the others are really blessed.
Your photos are fantastic, thank you so much.
Of course we are now waiting for more photos of benedetto.fan.

I have tears in my eyes when I see what I have missed. Sigh. But I am glad that you have been so successful again.






maryjos
00mercoledì 24 agosto 2011 21:38
What amazing photos, Benevolens! You and the others were indeed well blessed on that day.
GABRIELLA.JOSEPHINE
00giovedì 25 agosto 2011 12:48

Another wonderful and joyful experience.
Another unforgettable memory.
You said exactly, Eva: what you feel for him at that moment is really "total love".
Congratulations and many thanks for the vivid stories and evocative images.



Giselle 1
00giovedì 25 agosto 2011 14:21


Hi all,

thanks for the great and wonderful pics! [SM=g27836]

Tomorrow I will fly to Rome for five days and see Papa in Castel Gandolfo for Angelus prayer on sunday.
My question: Was it because of Assumption Day on August 15th that He was in the church or is He always going to the church before Angelus?

Tonight I hopefully have the time to upload for you the pics of His house in Pentling and of His university in Regensburg.


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Giselle 1
00giovedì 25 agosto 2011 14:23
Re:
Simone55, 21.08.2011 22:45:

Giselle:

really beautiful photos, Regensburg is such a great place.
Thank you for posting the photos. [SM=g27811]
I guess, it is you on the second pic. Nice to see you.




Yes that is me hidden in the shadow.
I am a little shy, because I do not trust the internet.
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maryjos
00giovedì 25 agosto 2011 15:29
Giselle: To answer your first question, Papa was celebrating Mass in the parish church at Castel Gandolfo because it was the Feast of the Assumption of Our Lady, August 15th. That is the only time that he says Mass there.

I agree with you about not trusting the internet, although I have posted my own photo a number of times. What I have discovered, and I'd warn anyone about this, is that Facebook can be very dangerous. I have "met" a few weirdos on there and one woman was so horrific that she caused me to lose the friendship of one of our members here [no names] and possibly that of another one who has been told. It was all due to one crazy woman who turned up to make trouble on a fan club I started on Facebook. I'm keeping the fan club, because it makes me happy.

Have a wonderful time in Rome!!!!!!
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Giselle 1
00giovedì 25 agosto 2011 19:10
Regensburg University
Hi, of course I went to the university in Regensburg too. I have to say when my navigator took me there I was very disappointed how ugly it looked there, dark and dirty and the entrance to the faculty of theology was full of old dead leaves.
But finally I found out that I was in the basement garage of the university and found a parking place and walked all over the beautiful campus....see my pics here:

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Giselle 1
00giovedì 25 agosto 2011 21:40
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The entrance of the library of the University of Regensburg:

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cowgirl2
00domenica 28 agosto 2011 21:32
Uni of Regensburg
Uaäää... 'wonderful' and typical style of architecture for public buildings, schools and office buildings of the 60ies 70ies and even 80ies - simply repulsive.

Poor Papa - I'm sure he enjoyed his work there - but the building... not so much!
flo_51
00lunedì 29 agosto 2011 14:06
Thanks for these photos. It is the first time I see pictures of this famous university
maryjos
00lunedì 29 agosto 2011 20:54
Thank you, Giselle!!! Regensburg University is a typical "concrete and plate glass" university, just like mine!!! Real 1960s architecture.

Note that Papa's house at Pentling is built in the same style. It's not particularly attractive, though I like the first floor balcony and the garden, of course.

You were so lucky to be able to visit the university!!!!!
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